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圣.汤玛斯福音(部分)

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发表于 2009-6-28 19:47:44 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
看了电影《Stigmata》后对这部福音产生了兴趣,所以到网上找了下,现在分享给大家。由于原文太长了,所以只发了一小部分,而且是中文繁体和英文的混合版。搜索了下,应该是还没人发过。
   簡介聖.湯瑪斯福音:
1945年埃及, 兩個男孩 他們是親兄弟 在Nag Hammadi (埃及尼羅河附近) 的山腳下尋找肥?? 突然其中一個男孩叫默罕莫德.阿里 踢到一個很硬的東西 這個東西被埋在地下 是一個很大的陶土瓶子 上頭用紅色的碟子封起來 起先阿里很還怕開啟這瓶子 害怕裡頭暗藏著邪靈 最後他股起勇氣打開瓶子 希望裡頭藏有黃金 結果 裡頭不是金子 而是12本以瞪羚羊皮包裹的卷軸. 在這些卷軸中 學者們發現一本完整的湯瑪斯福音, 大約是在1世紀以哥普特(Coptic)語言寫成 是二十世紀考古學最重要的發現之一.

這本福音到底寫了那些東西呢? 有些是基督徒耳熟能詳 在馬太及路加福音都有類似的話語:

“我來到地球 為了要將火降下.”, “看啊 有一個撒種子的,出去撒種子…” 等等. 但有些卻十分奇怪 引人注目, 彷彿是禪宗的公案一般: “如果你將內心的東西拿出來 那東西將拯救你; 如果你不將內心的東西拿出來 那個東西將會摧毀你.”

湯瑪斯福音中暗示耶穌對於當時人們對於天國的看法 跟其他傳統的四福音有所不同, 耶穌說“看 天國若在天空 鳥兒會比我們先到: 如果天國在海洋 魚兒們會比我們先到; 但上帝的國度是在你們裡面及外面, 一旦你了解自己 你也將被了解 你將知道你是永生天父的孩子.”

在這裡了解自己並不只是單純地知道你自己的名字 社會階級 或是地位,

而是深層地了悟 當你發現你內在的神聖性 你就會認識上帝.

另外一點不同的是 在傳統福音中 耶穌扮演天神下凡 權威者 及教師的角色.

在湯瑪斯福音中 耶穌告訴我們 他與我們是..雙胞胎 在很深的層次上

我們與耶穌都是相同的雙胞胎 我們都是上帝的小孩. 在湯瑪斯福音的最後

耶穌對湯瑪斯說 ”不管是誰從我嘴巴喝水就會像我一樣 我也將成為那個人

奧理將向他顯露.” 弟子們問耶穌 “告訴我們, 你要我們做什麼?

我們要如何禱告? 我們要怎麼吃 怎麼禁食?” 耶穌說 “不要說謊

不要做你所討厭的事情 因為所有事情 天都知道.” 再一次

耶穌要我們問自己的內心 發現我們真正的自己.

在這本福音中 耶穌教導我們死亡沒有什麼 死亡不是個可怕的難題

而是個答案 我們在世上所經歷的一切都將過去 唯有我們神聖的本質不會消失

死亡之後 我們的真我今被釋放 不再仰賴肉體. 所以耶穌說 “人若知道自己

就知道神的國度; 若不知道自己 就活在貧窮中.”

---------[end] Sep 11,2000.

湯瑪斯* 福音中英文合集

The Gospel of Thomas

English translation by Thomas O. Lambdin

中文翻譯: terry hsu.

*就是那鍋非要摸到耶穌肋骨才相信他從死裡復活的多疑湯瑪斯 ^^

參閱約翰福音第20章24~29節.

失落的聖經祕卷 #1~3

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這些話語是由活著的耶穌親口所說 並且由狄狄摩.猶大.湯瑪斯記載下來.

These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down.

(1)他說 "誰能找到這些話語的解釋 他就不會經歷死亡."

(1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not

experience death."

(2)耶穌說 "讓尋找的人繼續尋找直到找到為止. 當他找到了, 他會覺得困惑, 當他煩惱之際, 他會感到驚訝, 並且 他將凌駕於一切之上."

(2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."

(3)耶穌說 "如果那些領導你的人說 '看 天國在空中 那麼天上的鳥兒會比你先到天國 如果他們說 '天國在海裡那魚兒會游在你前面 然而, 天國是在你裡面 並且在你外面. 當你開始了解自己 你也將被了解 然後你將領悟 你就是永生天父的兒子, 但如果你不認識自己 你就處在貧窮中, 你就是貧窮."

(3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in

the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you,

'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves,

then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the

sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in

poverty and it is you who are that poverty.
失落的聖經祕卷 #10~12

(10) 耶穌說 "我來要將火苗投擲到這世上, 看啊, 我將守護著它 直到它成為熊熊烈火."

(10) Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."

(11)耶穌說 "天堂將會過去, 在天堂之上的那位也將過去. 死者不會活動, 活著的人將不會死.
在那些日子,當你們吃進死的東西 你們使它活過來.

當你居於光之中, 你將會做什麼? 在那日 你們曾是一 後來成為二. 但當你成為二的時候, 你將做什麼?

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耶穌說 "天堂將會消逝,而在其上的一切也會。死的東西,並不真正存在過,真正活著的(一切),本來也就不會死。
平常你們吃進的東西是死的,而你們把他轉化為活的(成為你生命的一部份而活著)。
當你們走進光裡,你們會做什麼?那一天(太初時),你們曾經從一體分而為二(靈魂),但當你們分而為二時,你們將做什麼?"
-- 感謝William的翻譯.
(11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. During the days when you ate what is dead, you made it come alive.

When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

(12) 門徒對耶穌說 "我們知道你將離開我們 誰將是我們的領袖呢?"

耶穌對他們說 "不管你們在什麼地方, 你們都可以到公正的雅各那兒, 因為他的緣故 天堂與地球才得以產生."

(12) The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you will depart from us. Who is to be our leader?"

Jesus said to them, "Wherever you are, you are to go to James the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being
失落的聖經祕卷 #13~15

(13) 耶穌對他的弟子說 '把我跟某個人相比 然後告訴我你覺得我像誰."

賽門.彼得說 "你像是位公義的天使"

馬太說 "你像是位睿智的哲學家"

湯瑪斯說 "師傅, 我的嘴巴完全無法說你像誰"

耶穌說 "我不是你的師傅, 因為你已經喝醉了 你已經陶醉在我所盛給你們的發泡泉水."

然後他把湯瑪斯帶開 告訴他三個字當湯瑪斯回到同伴身邊 他們問’耶穌剛才跟你說了什麼?’

湯瑪斯對他們說 ‘如果我告訴你們其中任何一件耶穌說的事 你們將會拿起石頭扔向我 然後火焰會從石頭中昇起 將你們燒盡.”

(13) Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to someone and tell me whom I am like."

Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a righteous angel."

Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."

Thomas said to him, "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like."

Jesus said, "I am not your master. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring which I have measured out."

And he took him and withdrew and told him three words. When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"

Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."

 

 

(14) 耶穌對他們說 “如果你禁食 你將帶給你自己罪惡; 如果你禱告 你將被譴責; 如果你訂定目標 你將傷害你的靈魂. 當你走到任何一片土地 如果當地的人接待你 他們準備什麼你就吃什麼, 並且醫療他們當中生病的人, 因為你所吃進嘴裡的不會污穢你 而是從你嘴裡出來的才會污穢你.”

(14) Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. When you go into any land and walk about in the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."

(15) 耶穌說 “當你看到有人不是由女子所生 你要匍伏在他面前並敬拜他, 那人就是你的父.”

(15) Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship him. That one is your father."

失落的聖經祕卷 #16~18

(16) 耶穌說 "人們或許以為我來是為了要給世界帶來和平, 他們不知道我來是要把衝突帶到地球: 火焰, 刀劍, 戰爭. 當屋子有五個人的時候: 其中三個會跟另外兩個互相對抗, 父要與子對抗 子要與父對抗 他們彼此孤立著.

(16) Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone.

(17) 耶穌說 "我將給你們的東西是 沒有人眼曾經看過 沒有人耳曾經聽過 也沒有人手曾經碰觸過 連人心的意念都未曾發生過的事情.

(17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

(18) 弟子們對耶穌說 "告訴我們 我們的終結將會是如何."

耶穌說 "那麼 你可曾發現終結的開端? 因為開端所在的地方就是結尾. 那些站在開端處的人是蒙福的; 因為他知道終了 並且不會經歷死亡."

(18) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be."

Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."

 

失落的聖經祕卷 #19~21

(19)耶穌說 “在出生之前就存在的人是蒙福的. 如果你成為我的弟子並聽從我的話語, 這些石頭都將服侍你. 在天堂中有五棵樹, 它們永不改變 不分夏冬 它們的葉子不會掉落 知道這些事情的人將不會嚐到死亡.

(19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being before coming into being. If you become my disciples and listen to my words, these stones will serve you. For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."

(20) 弟子們對耶穌說 “告訴我們天堂的國度像什麼.”

他說 “就像是顆芥菜種子 它是所有種子中最小的 但當它掉到耕種好的土穰 它會長成大樹 成為天空鳥兒的避難所.”

(20) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like."

He said to them, "It is like a mustard seed. It is the smallest of all seeds. But when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."

(21) 瑪莉對耶穌說 “你的弟子們像什麼?”

他說 “他們像是小孩 在不屬於他們的場地居住 當場地的所有人來了會說

‘我們來要回我們的場地.’ 他們就得脫掉衣服好讓所有人取走他們的東西.

因此如果一間屋子的主人知道有賊要來了 他就會保持警戒 好阻止小偷闖入屋子 取走他的東西. 你們也該保持警戒對抗這個世界, 以大力量武裝你們自己

防範強盜找到入侵你的路 因為你所期待的困難將會具體化 希望你們當中有人能夠理解這些話. 當穀物成熟時 他會迅速地拿著鐮刀收割它們. 有健全雙耳的人就該聽!”

(21) Mary said to Jesus, "Whom are your disciples like?"

He said, "They are like children who have settled in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Let us have back our field.' They (will) undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and to give it back to them. Therefore I say, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let him dig through into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. You, then, be on your guard against the world. Arm yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will (surely) materialize. Let there be among you a man of understanding. When the grain ripened, he came quickly with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. Anyone here with two good ears had better listen!"

失落的聖經祕卷 #110~114

(110) 耶穌說 “誰人找到世界並成為富有 讓他棄絕這世界.

(110) Jesus said, "Whoever finds the world and becomes rich, let him renounce the world."

(111) 耶穌說 “天與地都將歡迎你的存在. 從永生者那兒得到生命的人將看不到死亡.” 耶穌不是說 “找到自我的人勝過這世界嗎?”

(111) Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will roll up in your presence. And the one who lives from the living one will not see death." Does not Jesus say, "Whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"

(112) 耶穌說 “悲痛啊 肉體得依靠靈魂; 悲痛啊 靈魂得依靠肉體.”

(112) Jesus said, "Woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe to the soul that depends on the flesh."

(113)耶穌的門徒對他說 “什麼時候天國會到來?”

<耶穌說> “光是等待 它是不會來的. 也不是光說 ‘它在這裡’ 或 ‘它在那裡’ 就行. 確切地說, 父的國度散佈在地球上, 人們卻看不到它.”

(113) His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"

<Jesus said,> "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'here it is' or 'there it is.' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."

(114) 賽門彼得對耶穌說 “讓瑪莉離開我們吧 女性是不配生命的.”

耶穌說 “我將親自引導她 使她變成男性 於是她也可以有顆活生生酷似男性的心, 每一個願意將自己變成男性的女人都將進入天堂的國度.”

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, females don't deserve life."

Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."
发表于 2009-6-28 20:17:32 | 显示全部楼层
什麽意思?
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-28 20:55:57 | 显示全部楼层
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1945年在埃及NagHamadi发现卷轴,据说是耶稣活生生的话语,是所谓的圣汤玛斯福音(GospelofThomas,中文多译为“托马斯福音”或“多马福音”——笔者注),并被全世界学者公认为耶稣基督真实的纪录。梵蒂冈教廷拒绝承认这篇福音,并将其视为异端。
  《托马斯福音》如是说:

     神的国度存在于人心,无所不在,
  不存在于木石打造的房子。
  劈开一块木头我必将显现,
  搬走一块石头你必找到我。

这是耶稣活生生的话语,只要发现其中的意义,便能获得永生。”
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发表于 2009-7-1 16:48:28 | 显示全部楼层
好深奥的样子~~不太明白
不过唯一明白的就是戒条是外在的,内心决定一切,当你无愧于心时,上帝将与你同在
      
                                                                        ---阿门
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发表于 2009-7-1 16:48:35 | 显示全部楼层
好深奥的样子~~不太明白
不过唯一明白的就是戒条是外在的,内心决定一切,当你无愧于心时,上帝将与你同在
      
                                                                        ---阿门
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发表于 2009-7-8 22:59:51 | 显示全部楼层
是真是假啊?  现在假冒神的话  太多了
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